Research Physics and Mathematics School at ITMO reviews. Non-classical admission to university

general information

The School of Physics and Mathematics (PMS) of ITMO University is organized for students in grades 8–11 (enrollment is carried out in grades 8, 9 and 10) and provides in-depth training in physics and mathematics in the amount of 408 to 728 hours. Training is carried out by highly qualified teachers from NRU ITMO in the evening after classes at a comprehensive school.

While studying at Physics and Mathematics School, students study physics and mathematics at a specialized level, which ensures successful preparation for participation in subject Olympiads, passing the State Examination (grade 9) and the Unified State Exam (grade 11), and subsequent studies at a university. During the academic year, introductory tours of the departments and laboratories of the university and lectures on career guidance are held. FMS graduates successfully enter and study at the National Research University ITMO and other higher educational institutions in the city.

Students are provided with educational and methodological literature developed by PhMS teachers. During the academic year, tests and tests are carried out, and at the end of semesters there are examination sessions. Electronic journal, posted on the FMS website, allows parents to monitor the progress of their children and interact interactively with teachers.

Admission to the Physics School is carried out based on the results of the entrance test. Registration for 8th, 9th and 10th grades takes place from April to June and early September. Testing is carried out in May, June and September.

Students take the winter session at ITMO University, and the summer session (optional) at the Yagodnoye Educational, Sports and Health Center. This Center is located in the Priozersky district of the Leningrad region, in a pine forest on the shore of a lake. Children can successfully combine study with recreation and sports. Those wishing to take the summer session in Yagodnoye undergo additional preparation for the exams.

Classes are held 2 times a week on weekdays in the evenings for 3 academic hours in 9th - 11th grades and 2 academic hours in 8th grades.

In addition to the full-time course, the school has developed a correspondence (distance) course for those living in remote regions.

Based on the results of Olympiads in physics and mathematics, FMS became one of the leading schools and since 2008, the administration of St. Petersburg has ranked it among the elite educational institutions of the city.

Preparation for State Examination, Unified State Exam, Olympiads

Full-time and part-time students have the opportunity to work with the FMS electronic course based on the materials of the Unified State Exam in Physics and Mathematics and Olympiad assignments from previous years.

Proportion of FMS graduates,
continued their studies at higher educational institutions

Year of issue	Entered university	Enrolled in a budget-funded form of education
2007	100.0%	94.9%
2008	100.0%	92.7%
2009	98.6%	97.1%
2010	100.0%	97.6%
2011	100.0%	100.0%
2012	100.0%	94.0%
2013	100.0%	95.7%
2014	100.0%	95.0%

Maya Toivovna Glumova

23.09.2009, 19:38

23.09.2009, 20:07

This one: http://faculty.ifmo.ru/cdp/index.php?page=3.
My son entered 10th grade there. In any case, this is encouraging, because knowledge is never superfluous, but I would like feedback and impressions from those who have already studied there. What really confuses me is what most applicants accept, as I understand it.
This is my second year going there. Wants to enter ITMO.

24.09.2009, 00:41

24.09.2009, 00:44

And by the way, not everyone is too bad at physics :)
Last year I heard about a group (now in 11th grade) that solves problems very well. Mostly, simple problems weren’t even solved with them; they weren’t interested.
So there are pleasant surprises :)

Maya Toivovna Glumova

24.09.2009, 19:12

This is my second year going there. Wants to enter ITMO.
Why does this bother you? There are few high school children now, but they have the opportunity to recruit a certain number of groups. If there are few applicants, then almost everyone is accepted. If they received twice as much as they could take, they would take half, etc. :))
At Open Days they explain that they only don’t take on very weak people who clearly can’t handle it. But most of them don’t come themselves;) why do they need a technical university if they are not at all friendly with mathematics:046: The rest are distributed according to the levels of mathematics: the strongest - in one group, the weaker - in the second, etc. They look at mathematics, because, according to them, everyone is about equally bad at physics:065:

Maya Toivovna Glumova

24.09.2009, 19:15

the school is good. I don’t know mathematicians, but physicists are very good - I would calmly send my child to study with any of them.
It’s worth learning, especially if you’re not very confident in your school level of knowledge and ability to prepare yourself. There they will teach you how to solve problems (of course, if the child wants to do so). The guys are participating in the ITMO Internet Olympiad. The percentage of those receiving diplomas is high.
The percentage of those who eventually entered the university on a budget (the majority, of course, at ITMO) is also high, and the faculties are not Khukhra-Mukhra, but KTU, IF.

Thank you, very comforting to read.
My son’s problem is precisely that he clearly has technical inclinations, and mathematics and physics at school: 010:. In short, we have a humanities school, that’s how it turned out. But it was the mathematics teacher who recommended the Physics and Mathematics School at ITMO.

24.09.2009, 19:42

It was embarrassing because my son practically failed math, which is what they themselves said. True, he has no problems with physics; he wrote very well there. That's probably why they took it :).
I suspect it’s really difficult with children right now... that’s what I’m hoping for:008:
I remember when we went to 1st grade, schools barely had two classes (and in some places only one...) - despite the fact that there were three or more second grades in the same schools.
Plus, they were depressed by the results of the admissions campaign - 2009:043: According to the vice-rector, this year “locals” were able to enter almost exclusively through Olympiads - the rest of the places were taken by beneficiaries and graduates from regions with unrealistically high scores - ours turned out to be practically uncompetitive...

Diona, does your son like studying there? Interesting? Difficult?
Still, I really want to know.
According to him, he has no difficulty anywhere:046:
This year, due to the coincidence of the days of his last year’s group with the days of the treatment he needed, he was transferred to another, stronger group. He likes it much more there:065: he says it’s more interesting - the pace is higher, there’s no time to relax... Now he wants to gain a foothold in this group (he was transferred only for the duration of treatment). I don’t know how much his diligence will last... he is not much inclined to work independently, so the more organized activities he has, the better.

He says that they go through approximately the same things as at school, but in a different order and generally differently organized - at a higher, “institutional” level, or something... and so it’s clearer to him :))

AQUAMARINE

02.04.2010, 13:40

02.04.2010, 15:44

I looked.
A little expensive for us - 13,500 per semester... hmmm...
Now we are considering the option of studying with them at the Academy of Informatics and Programming for schoolchildren.
But these will be evening extra classes, and not school, of course...

02.04.2010, 15:47

I’ll raise the topic. Maybe there will be more reviews.
My son decided to enter 9th grade. I'm just afraid it will be hard for him to travel for three years :(.

Don’t you have anything closer? After all, there is more than one strong physics and mathematics school in the city...:ded:

AQUAMARINE

02.04.2010, 15:47

02.04.2010, 15:59

So for 13500 also evening. Physics once a week, mathematics once a week.

Really... Sorry, I was confused by the word “school” - for some reason I decided that this was a real physics and mathematics school...

Good luck to you! :flower:

AQUAMARINE

02.04.2010, 16:20

Our goals are not completely different))) Programming is our priority, and physics and mathematics are necessary, because there is no teaching at school. But we won’t be able to afford tutors financially.:(We’re waiting for Sunday to go to the open day and watch and listen. In the meantime, I’m collecting reviews.
And good luck to you. :flower:

07.04.2010, 03:09

AQUAMARINE

07.04.2010, 11:12

Good afternoon..were you able to make it to the opening day? doors? How are your impressions? We were very interested in the school, but unlike the Academy of Informatics for school. There is only one such day announced...
Hello. Yes we were. My son liked it. After the introduction (general points), we stayed to listen to information about the Faculty of Information Technologies and Programming. We found out the number of places for the specialties of interest. Pop went to a meeting with the director of the Physics School. A very nice woman, but she only teaches students. You can sign up for entrance exams to the school through the ITMO website. In general, we are waiting for the end of May, and we will try our hand.

07.04.2010, 12:38

Really... Sorry, I was confused by the word “school” - for some reason I decided that this was a real physics and mathematics school...
Well, yes, then everything is clear with the price - my son will study at the Academy (if he enrolls) in the evening once a week and it costs about 11,000-12,000 a year. And at school there are twice as many activities.

But you see, we are definitely interested in and need programming - it seems that it will be a future profession (ttt...). But he is not eager to study physics and mathematics additionally. Only when necessary.

So you and I have different goals and objectives :))
Good luck to you! :flower:

07.04.2010, 13:51

It’s also not entirely clear to me what kind of m.b. FMS 2 times a week after school.:016:
And programming is well taught in circles: at ITMO (Parfenov’s department), at Anichkov (department of technology), FTS, 30, 239 (?). From 7th-8th grade and older. And it's free ;). True, the children are mainly from physics and mathematics schools. In summer and winter there is a visiting LKSH camp http://www.lksh.ru A novice programmer can also get to level D :)
Olympiads for schoolchildren are held: http://neerc.ifmo.ru/ with access to the region, Russia and internationally
There are also foreign Internet Olympiads, team programming Olympiads for schoolchildren and students

Why don’t you write anything about the Academy of Informatics for schoolchildren at the Polytechnic University? In theory, it should be no weaker than the Academy of Programming at ITMO....

Center for Computational Technology - we are not considering it. :015: :001:

Thank you all so much in advance! :support: :flower:

07.04.2010, 14:45

Hello. Yes we were. My son liked it. After the introduction (general points), we stayed to listen to information about the Faculty of Information Technologies and Programming. We found out the number of places for the specialties of interest. Pop went to a meeting with the director of the Physics School. A very nice woman, but she only teaches students. You can sign up for entrance exams to the school through the ITMO website. In general, we are waiting for the end of May, and we will try our hand.

I didn’t find a section for registration on the website.....What about you? and how to find out the dates of entrance examinations?

AQUAMARINE

07.04.2010, 14:50

Is there no division into faculties on their website? and how to find out the dates of entrance examinations?
Faculties: http://www.ifmo.ru/stat/65/struct.htm
Entrance tests at the end of May, June and September. You need to leave an application here: REGISTRATION FOR FMS
In mid-May they will call you back and choose a convenient time (month) for testing. I have information from the open day.

07.04.2010, 14:56

AQUAMARINE

07.04.2010, 14:59

Thanks I found everything! I just didn’t understand at first and thought that the school was also divided into faculties... Which class are you planning on going to?
at 9 o'clock.

07.04.2010, 15:49

Thank you, Michele, we already know all this;)
Now I am very busy searching, so this information has already been combed through. Moreover, I want not just a “circle”, but something more serious - with a training program designed for 2-3 years, with certain prospects (as far as possible).
Much more serious. This is Olympiad programming. After these clubs, children are taken without exams to ITMO Parfyonov, to Matobes and Chistmat, PM-PU, where they train the best programmers for us and the West :)) Polytechnic IMHO is weak in this regard. The programmers themselves do not consider the FTC as a worthwhile place for training personnel :).

07.04.2010, 16:46

It’s also not entirely clear to me what kind of m.b. FMS 2 times a week after school.:016:

Very simple. Once in mathematics, once in physics. Unlike mat. clubs, where the entire school curriculum in mathematics and physics is covered, intensively and in depth. Children are divided into several levels, depending on the test results - there are “weak” groups, there are stronger ones, with different rates of passing the material, respectively, the strong groups receive more, the weak ones improve their level. Like that. That is, it is designed for children from regular schools who lack the level of mathematics and physics that is given in their schools (or who need help in mastering and systematizing it, like mine :))). There are children there from humanitarian schools (as a rule, they end up in “weak” groups) and from regional physics mats. This is, of course, hardly necessary for children from the city school of physical education, but for the rest it is not at all superfluous.

The point is that the institute’s teachers, according to them, are completely unsatisfied with the level of training in basic subjects (and at ITMO it is still physics and mathematics, not programming) of the majority of graduates of public schools who enroll in them. And the goal of this evening FMS is not only to prepare schoolchildren for entering a university, but also to provide a level of preparation that will allow them to study at this university without any problems. Of course, if a child receives sufficient training elsewhere (in a city physical education school, from a strong teacher in a regular school, from a tutor, independently, etc.), then he does not need such help.

07.04.2010, 17:32

Much more serious. This is Olympiad programming. After these clubs, children are taken without exams to ITMO to Parfenov, to Matobes and Chistmat, PM-PU, where they train the best programmers for us and the West :)).
That's for sure.:053: In the fall, at ITMO's preschool education department, students 30 and 239 were gathered in a separate classroom and asked to study in this circle. But first it was necessary to write the introductory Olympiad, i.e. and from these children they selected the most capable. The circle is led by Pavel Marfin and another guy (I forgot), both champions of either the world or Europe.

07.04.2010, 18:20

mishele and Werte!

Thanks for the information, but for some reason I don’t see any “circles” (especially free ones) on the ITMO website: 008:
There is a Programming Academy and a Children and Youth Computer Center.

And I don’t see any DOD either. Am I looking at it wrong somehow? :008:
Here is the official ITMO website. Point your finger, please... :091:

Http://www.ifmo.ru/

07.04.2010, 19:04

Oops, I wrote the manager's name wrong! Pavel Mavrin - that’s how it should be. There really is no information about the circle on the site, I’ll try to look for it. But they know about the club at the Academy, you can ask them.

07.04.2010, 19:30

Yeah, at least I found Parfenova in Personas.
But Mavrin is not there.
It seems like their website... hmm-mm... not quite “fresh”... :((

But if I call there, let’s say, WHAT SHOULD I ASK? What does "DOD" stand for?
Otherwise it will be like in a broken phone - “they say you have a circle...”.

07.04.2010, 20:17

DOD - open day. Go to the page of the Academy of Informatics and Programming, there is a subsection “Olympiad Programming” (look at the top right). Then “courses to prepare for the Olympiads.” Although this also doesn’t seem to be very fresh. But there is Zubka’s phone number downstairs, you can ask him anything. And the circle was definitely recruited this fall, I myself was at a meeting with Parfenov. Champion children also came with him, who later teach classes in this circle.

The hero of this story is Ilya Glebov, a schoolboy from Monchegorsk, a small town in the Murmansk region. In a city of forty thousand people there are several high schools, a gymnasium, a lyceum and not many good tutors - so when the family started talking about preparing for the Unified State Exam in computer science, Ilya decided to rely on Internet resources. And, as it turned out, I was right – I scored 97 points in computer science. But in this story, the preparation process turned out to be even more interesting than the result:

Everything really happened when I was preparing for the Unified State Exam in computer science. There was problem number 27. The point is that it had a lot of parameters - x1, x2, x3, x4, x5 and so on. We had to try and sort through.
And I was so tired of doing this that I just decided to distract myself and read something. I came across an article about a vulnerability on Facebook and decided to try this method on VK
We send a request to send an SMS to subscriber A with session_id C, he receives code 1234

We send a request to send an SMS to subscriber B with session_id C, he receives code 1234

Now, if subscriber A knows the phone number of subscriber B, he can restore his page.

It was possible to restore only the page to which the last SMS with a similar session_id was received.
First of all, Ilya reported the vulnerability in a report on HackerOne. VKontakte responded promptly and fixed the vulnerability in 17 hours, after which the Mail.Ru Group holding, which includes VKontakte, paid Ilya $3,000 - two thousand for finding the vulnerability and another thousand under the bug bounty program from ICQ (messenger used the same ilbverify library as VKontakte).
From a post on Habré to entering university
In July, having already passed all the exams, Ilya wrote about the vulnerability on Habré. This material became his debut on the site, collected almost 70 thousand views and, of course, interested ITMO University:
Ilya’s post very quickly hit the top of Habr’s day, and then the week, and I, like many of my colleagues, regularly visit specialized resources. Therefore, the very next day after publication, in the department’s telegram chat we discussed both the post itself and one of Ilya’s comments, where, answering a question about choosing a university, he listed universities in St. Petersburg, but did not mention ITMO.
– Nikolay Pshenichny, Head of the Career Guidance and Talent Department of the Strategic Communications Department

In a conversation with Ilya, it turned out that the only problem was the 60 points he received on the Unified State Exam in mathematics - Ilya believed that because of this he would not have the opportunity to study at ITMO University, except on a paid basis. However, a misfire on one exam should not be fatal, especially when we are talking about a student who demonstrates completely unschool knowledge in a core subject.
Ilya wrote a post on Habré on July 9. And just four days later he met with representatives of the Admissions Committee and the dean of the Faculty of Information Security and Computer Technologies at ITMO University.
Danil Zakoldaev (dean) noted that Ilya’s level of knowledge is not inferior to other strong applicants. Moreover, he understands such disciplines as “Software and hardware information security” and “Web programming” at the level of a 3-4 year student:
Ilya’s knowledge in some subject areas significantly exceeds the requirements for children of his age: his interest in reverse engineering and desire to develop, including independently, are obvious. We hope that he will withstand a serious load of basic disciplines in the first year of study and will be able to reveal his talents in the field of information security.
– Danil Zakoldaev

ITMO recommended that Ilya apply for training in the educational program “Information Security Technologies” of the mega-faculty “Computer Technologies and Management”. Since the sum of the Unified State Exam scores did not allow the student to pass on a budget, the university management offered him to study at the expense of the university, and in the future, if Ilya studies “good” and “excellent”, transfer him to free education.

Alexey Itin, Danil Zakoldaev, Ilya Glebov, Natalya Glebova (Ilya’s mother) and Nikolai Pshenichny. Photo by ITMO University
“Ilya is not the first applicant to whom ITMO University has offered to study at the university’s expense. Proactive work with schools and the search for talented, motivated students who are not Olympiad winners or high-scoring students is one of the strategic goals of the university. As part of the development of the unified ITMO.FAMILY university community, next year it is planned to implement a separate program for searching and supporting such applicants. We are waiting for new “stars” on Habré,” says Anna Veklich, first deputy chairman of the Admissions Committee, head of the Department of Strategic Communications at ITMO University.
Talent Search
The ITMO University team carefully studies the materials published on Habré. Unfortunately, organizing a search for talent through habraposts turns out to be difficult:
A systematic search for applicants on Habr is impossible for objective reasons: although IT competencies are accessible to all ages, most often the youngest Habr residents, even if they participate in discussions and publish entries, do not focus on the fact that they are still studying at school […]
It is important to understand that the story of Ilya’s admission to ITMO University is a coincidence, which became possible thanks to the fact that staff and students of our university regularly read this blog. If you want, you can say that the post fell into the right hands of a member of the Admissions Committee. We probably wouldn’t seriously recommend this path in the future. But it is also impossible not to encourage such achievements of motivated schoolchildren. As always, you need to look for the golden mean.
– Nikolai Pshenichny

If you regularly share your ideas and developments with the community, you can, firstly, get feedback from other hackers - people who are sometimes in no way inferior in knowledge to your teachers will tell you how relevant the chosen topic is and how it can be developed . And the experience of creating strong materials and feedback from the community will help prepare reports for scientific and practical conferences, such as, for example, the Congress of Young Scientists of ITMO University. By the way, participation in the Congress is one of the many individual achievements for which we give additional points towards the Unified State Exam.
So, how to introduce yourself to a talented applicant:
1. Try to go beyond the “comfort zone” - that is, in the case of applicants, beyond the school curriculum. Ilya’s story is an excellent example of the fact that for admission to a university, not only USE scores are important, but also your curiosity, perseverance and hard work - as well as your interests in areas that are not included in the school curriculum.
2. Pay attention to what you are really interested in - in addition to solving “mandatory” problems. Develop your hobbies, find friends in thematic communities, participate in specialized online activities, don’t be lazy to spend your energy on Olympiads, the results of which can be accepted at the universities of your dreams.
3. Don’t be afraid to express yourself on specialized resources like Habr - share your knowledge and experience, regardless of age. There is also no need to hide the fact that you are still in school - remember that ITMO University values and carefully reads Habr.
4. Unfortunately, high karma and a large number of posts on Habré alone will not be enough for admission. Ilya’s case in this case is a rare and fortunate coincidence. On the other hand, your post on Habré can turn into a report at a specialized conference - and this is already a significant and guaranteed contribution to admission to a university.
5. Many universities value individual achievements during admission - they can play a role in admission. For example, ITMO University has a whole list of achievements for which you can add points to your Unified State Exam results. Among them are the ITMO.Vkontakte Olympiad, the Tournament of Two Capitals, language certificates, achievements in sports and much more.
6. And most importantly, choose what inspires you. If it's IT, new technologies, robotics, photonics, bioengineering - we will be glad to see you among our students!

Classes: senior. In grades 5 and 10, selection is carried out for vacant places and is carried out in the form of competitive tests for students (tests, interviews). Applicants take an exam in mathematics and the Russian language, and from the 10th grade - also physics.

The lyceum has a strong teaching staff. It provides students with the knowledge and skills of basic and advanced courses in mathematics, physics, and information technology. The high quality of education at the Lyceum is confirmed by participation in international competitions, victories in Olympiads and the admission of its graduates to higher educational institutions of the city. The school has trained graduates, including more than 200 doctors of science and thousands of candidates of science.

Classes: middle and high. In grades 8, 9, 10, admission is carried out on a competitive basis based on the results of the introductory Olympiad in mathematics (two rounds). Admission to the 5th grade is carried out on a competitive basis based on the results of entrance olympiads in mathematics and the Russian language. One of the leading educational institutions in Russia specializing in physics and mathematics. In-depth study of mathematics, physics, programming.

The lyceum employs 22 of its graduates. The dean of the Faculty of Physics of St. Petersburg State University, Alexander Sergeevich Chirtsov, is also a graduate of this lyceum. The Center for Informatization of Education operates. Math clubs have existed for many years. Every summer they go out of town to a math camp. There is a department of additional education of 43 groups, in which about 700 students study - both from the lyceum and from other schools. The department works in 6 areas. There is a sports club "Olympus" (5 directions, 150 people), a stadium, and gyms.

Classes: 5, 8, 9, 10. Admission conditions - rating olympiads. One of the oldest educational institutions in the city. In 1990, it received the status of a physics and mathematics lyceum and an experimental base-laboratory for teaching standards in physics, mathematics and computer science. Among all the schools in the world, lyceum 239 has the largest number of winners of international mathematics Olympiads. In 2013, in the list of the 25 strongest schools in Russia (in terms of the Unified State Exam and Olympiads), compiled for the first time by the Moscow Center for Continuing Mathematical Education, the lyceum took third place.

The Center for Mathematical Education at the Lyceum is world famous. In addition to regularly conducting classes, it conducts open Olympiads and organizes a summer math camp. The lyceum has a physical center, an information technology center, a chemical center, a theater studio, a journalist club, and various clubs and sections.

Physics and mathematics classes: 5-10. The lyceum entered the top ten best schools in the city according to the Unified State Examination results in mathematics and physics in 2009. For several years he took part in space educational experiments (for example, an experiment on growing plants on the International Space Station). Classes at the lyceum are divided into technical (in-depth study of physics and mathematics) and natural science (in-depth study of physics, computer science and mathematics). Admission to 1st grade is carried out on an application basis. Admission to grades 5-10 is carried out on a competitive basis, based on the results of entrance examinations.

Almost all lyceum graduates successfully enter universities, mainly in technical fields. The lyceum has entered into cooperation agreements with the University of Aerospace Instrumentation, Electrical Engineering University, and St. Petersburg ITMO. High school students have the opportunity to study at the winter school at the Faculty of Physics of St. Petersburg State University. The lyceum has 38 different clubs and sections.

5. Physics and mathematics school No. 644 (Unified State Exam rating - 67.60)

Classes: middle and high. The program of in-depth study of mathematics and physics is implemented starting from the 8th grade (mathematics - 8 hours, physics - 3 hours). Preparation for admission to them is carried out from the 1st grade. An agreement was signed with Physics and Mathematics Lyceum No. 239 on cooperation in the field of education. In accordance with this agreement, from September 1, 2013, one 5th grade lyceum was opened on the basis of the school, to which students from schools in the Primorsky district are admitted on a competitive basis.

The school is operating in experimental mode. A system of school student self-government has been created and is successfully operating. There is a network of various electives, clubs and sections. In 2012, the school became the winner of a competition between educational institutions introducing innovative educational programs. Based on the results of work in 2012, it was included in the national register “Best Schools in Russia”.

Classes: middle and high. The school organizes and conducts additional classes for in-depth study of mathematics and physics by students in grades 7-10. The school cooperates with the St. Petersburg State Transport University. It was opened by order of the USSR Ministry of Railways in 1988 to improve the physical and mathematical training of future railway transport specialists.

The school program is coordinated with the program of secondary schools. It allows you to study these subjects in depth as part of the school course and prepare for final exams at school, in the form of the Unified State Exam. Training is carried out by correspondence. During the year, the student is given 5-6 assignments in each subject with tests. He is sent methodological literature, which briefly outlines the main theoretical issues. The school employs experienced teachers from the departments of Higher Mathematics and Physics of PGUPS. The duration of training in each class is 8 months.